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Saturday, December 31, 2011

Being all knowing

Luke 2:52

New International Version (NIV)
52 And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man.

Occasionally I run across passages like this one where the author of an article is using a quote from the bible to illustrate a point. What amuses me is that they simply gloss over what the implications of a verse like this really means.

If Jesus grew in wisdom as he matured from a child to an adult, then he was learning new information. If he learned something, then he obviously was unaware of the information beforehand. Some of the attributes of god is that he is all knowing, all powerful, and never changes. Jesus is said to be god. Well, part of god, they gloss over the Trinity most of the time too. If Jesus learned something new, then he cannot claim to always be all knowing. How can an all knowing, all powerful deity, be reduced in power? If he was reduced in power and knowledge as a human, then god can change. If he cannot change, then Jesus had to be all knowing from day one as an infant. 

It also says that Jesus grew in favor with god. Now, once again, Jesus IS god. How does an aspect of god grow in favor with himself? What does that even mean? How is it even remotely possible that god, who being all knowing, knows exactly what Jesus will do. In fact, Jesus is fulfilling gods will. (Which is really his own will) Since god sent Jesus to earth to do everything that Jesus did, what could Jesus do that would actually increase his favor with god? (Who is himself, of course)

It is the absurdity of verses like this that show that the bible is simply a work of fiction. 


  1. Jeff, I don't want to disamuse you, I just wanted you to know that when Jesus was born to take habitation on the earth, the veil between heaven and earth came over him, same as it did for us when we left the comfort of the Father to come to earth. He walked the earth just like any man. It was only in time that he went about his "Father's business" through promptings of the Holy Spirit, as any man knows when to do things.

  2. Jeff: I am getting this error message on your rational responses comment site: "Confirm Form Resubmission: This webpage requires data that you entered earlier in order to be properly displayed. You can send this data again, but by doing so you will repeat any action this page previously performed. Press Reload to resend that data and display this page." but I don't see a reload button.

    :( I just lost another response I made to you somehow