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Friday, May 6, 2011

Does the biblical god or gods laws ever change?

How about god ? Does he ever change?

Num 23:19: God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

 1 Samuel 15:29: And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent.

 Malachi 3:6: For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

These verses should do. They make it very clear that he does not change. If as Christians state, when God says he does not change, this means he does not change his essence, his attributes, his purpose and his decrees. However, this leaves the Christians with a problem. Sure the Christians say that those verses don’t mean that God cannot become a man, however the verses are still very clear, that God is not LIKE a man to repent or change his mind, God is not LIKE a man to be weak and have no power, God is not LIKE a man to become a servant. That is the main message that God is sending, he not like a man, so we cannot try and compare him with us, and he is not like a man to change his mind, such as his laws and his teachings. However so, if Jesus is indeed God, then God has indeed taken a drastic U-turn and has changed, not because he became a man, or the son of man, but because his attributes and essence have completely CHANGED.

 1- God’s attributes never change, he is ALWAYS all POWERFUL and all MIGHTY, and is not in need of anyone else, he owns everything and has all power and authority. Jesus was not all-powerful nor was he all mighty, since he had nothing of his own, everything he had was from the Father. Jesus did not own anything, especially the authority he had. It was GIVEN, not owned by Jesus. Jesus was in need of the Father to spread the message and teach the people, by signs, miracles, and doctrine. All those things were given to Jesus. God is not in need of ANYTHING. That is why he says he is not LIKE a man. So basically if we are to believe Jesus is God, then it is without a doubt that God did change and lied when he said he does not change. Let us just make a summary out of point one.

 A- God is not in need of anything or anyone: Jesus was in need of the Father. (John 8:28, John 5:30, Heb 5:7-8)

 B- God OWNS everything, all things belong to him, he does not receive power or authority from others. Jesus did not own ANYTHING, everything he had was from the Father, from miracles to his doctrine, and nothing was his. The Jesus who is not bound by the flesh is also in need of things. (John 14:24, John 7:16, Mat 28:18, John 13:3, John 17:6-8, as for the Jesus being GIVEN things Dan 7: 13-14)

 So the facts are clear, Jesus is in no way similar to God, and if Jesus is God, then God did definitely change! So it is clear, if Jesus is God, then God did change.

God's message supposedly doesn’t change either; God does not change his mind or repent. However so, we hear Christians saying Jesus came down to die for our sins, which is another drastic U-turn in the way God does things. The first commandment was always the most important of all, and so were several other commandments. However we now see that position has changed. We now have to believe in Jesus dying for our sins to be saved, and that the NT and OT are very different. So the fact of the matter is that if Jesus is God, then God did change his message, and his mind on the way he does things, by making Jesus die for our sins. It seems God was not strong enough that he had to make an easy way into heaven for us, just believe in Jesus and you’re saved. It seems God gave up on us.

Leviticus 20:10
And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbor’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

John 8:3-8
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

Now let us see. Originally, god said if you commit adultery you will be killed. Then he said, you cannot kill them unless you have never committed any sins yourself. Now, that limitation was not there initially and gods law originally said they should be killed. Now it is different and they are not to be killed. So, unless the meaning of the word killed has been changed, his law has changed.

The bible even says that the laws will be changed. "For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also." Hebrews 7:12.

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